Dec 2, 2012 8:00am PST
, they can't do something to bridge this in to a conversation next year. but when president obama says things through tim geithner that he said about raising tax rate and spend additional money, which is crazy, it makes people more concerned that a big overall grand bargain can't be reached next year. >> eric: martin, do you think a grand bargain won't be reached? >> i think it will. talk about what is going on now here first. you know, the president won the election. he campaigned on the basis of higher rates for the taxpayer income earners. no surprise. the republicans are asking shocked that the president is taking a tough line. i think they expect him to roll over and play dead. that is not the way things work in this town. he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement.
Dec 2, 2012 11:00am PST
republican position is let the payroll tax rate go back up by 2%. that's a two percentage point increase on every american and it's a marginal increase on everyone making less than $100,000 a year. i really worry that president obama, we consider that he's overreaching, it's too much, you know. at the end of the day president obama is selling a very simple message. i want to keep taxes low for middle class americans and republicans, i'm worried, are in the position of looking as if they don't care about the middle class and want to keep tax rates low for wealthy americans. >> one of the things that struck me in my interview with tim geithner, the republicans were a little unclear. he said the bush tax rates had to go up but not all the way up and geithner said they had do have to go up to 39.6%. >> i still think the white house is willing to settle for something in the middle there above the bush tax rate but maybe not all the way back up to clinton, maybe not 250 and above, maybe 500. i think there are moving parts there. i think he says in every speech he goes out there and gives the h